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Enrique Lescure
 Enrique Lescure
(@enrique_lescure)
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I am not stating that this methodology of expansion of post-capitalist systems is a substitute for political struggle. That would be naïvety. However, the question is *why* would people in capitalist societies decide to opt for non-capitalist modes of living and transition towards them? Of course, to improve workers' rights, but those are deteriorating both because of political, economic and technological reasons, and are still a matter of fundamentally improving the status of workers within the system.

I believe that resilience and communitarian self-governance, as well as the self-management of energy, food and utilities will increase the power of both communities and individuals. If people together are managing their electricity generation, and decide to have a non-monetary system, or if their habitats are owned by an association which also owns the ability to produce and sell energy to other communities, and instead of taking out profit it decides to let them live for free, their de-facto income will rise.

Thus, moving towards a post-monetary state of living could in fact increase the general income of people, and allow them to decrease their working time and therefore live more fulfilling lives with more time for their families. Your thoughts?

https://eosprojects.com/the-proto-technate-a-way-out-of-life-puzzle.html

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Topic starter Posted : 12/09/2022 6:13 pm
Tomas Härdin
 Tomas Härdin
(@thardin)
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Yes, workers who spend time working for the commune/whatever will get better "leverage" out of their labour. This leverage is precisely the rate of exploitation plus 100%. If the rate of exploitation sits at 80% then the "leverage" is 180%. I am working on a blog post that expands on this. But, this only applies if tools of average productivity are used.

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Posted : 13/09/2022 12:20 pm
Enrique Lescure
 Enrique Lescure
(@enrique_lescure)
Eminent Member
Posted by: @thardin

Yes, workers who spend time working for the commune/whatever will get better "leverage" out of their labour. This leverage is precisely the rate of exploitation plus 100%. If the rate of exploitation sits at 80% then the "leverage" is 180%. I am working on a blog post that expands on this. But, this only applies if tools of average productivity are used.

The question then is: "Why not link up several communes?"

If we reduce the rate of dependency, and make more utilities moneyless, the people involved would get an incentive to further increase connectivity, and also people outside would get an incentive to join in.

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Topic starter Posted : 14/09/2022 6:52 am
Tomas Härdin
 Tomas Härdin
(@thardin)
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Posted by: @enrique_lescure

The question then is: "Why not link up several communes?"

Yes this is exactly what me and Dave propose.

If we reduce the rate of dependency, and make more utilities moneyless, the people involved would get an incentive to further increase connectivity, and also people outside would get an incentive to join in.

I presume you mean "dependency on the capitalist economy" here.

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Posted : 14/09/2022 7:01 am
Enrique Lescure
 Enrique Lescure
(@enrique_lescure)
Eminent Member
Posted by: @thardin
Posted by: @enrique_lescure

The question then is: "Why not link up several communes?"

Yes this is exactly what me and Dave propose.

If we reduce the rate of dependency, and make more utilities moneyless, the people involved would get an incentive to further increase connectivity, and also people outside would get an incentive to join in.

I presume you mean "dependency on the capitalist economy" here.

Yes.

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Topic starter Posted : 16/09/2022 12:41 pm
Enrique Lescure
 Enrique Lescure
(@enrique_lescure)
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How long ahead on the road have you guys come?

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Topic starter Posted : 16/09/2022 12:41 pm
Tomas Härdin
 Tomas Härdin
(@thardin)
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@enrique_lescure We're busy agitating. More and more people are getting in touch wanting to contribute. Cibcom.org in particular have been getting a lot of attention, so perhaps there will be the possibility of running an experiment somewhere in Spain at a later date.

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Posted : 16/09/2022 2:59 pm
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